we weren't red or blue states. we were the united states. that was inspirational even to guys like me. about you there is nothing you can point to to look at president obama and say, oh, my goodness, he did bridge places that were difficult. and what bill clinton did that a president obama has never done is bill clinton learned his lesson after two years and made some alterations, worked with republicans, and they actually made some progress. >> did he not make an alteration to make a deal with john boehner that ultimately collapsed because boehner could not sell it to his caucus? >> no, no. >> read "the new york times," read "the washington post." >> i read "the new york times." >> of course you do. but you can see this president walked away from any deal in order to fix our budget problems. but the real issue -- >> but some would say obstructionist republicans. i have heard that a lot on my show. >>> when we come back, we'll talk to bill burton and continue this conversation. still ahead this morning, not just politicians but hollywood sta